I have been searching my pedigree on Ancestry and came upon a connection that was much more full-fledged than I had anticipated: the Scottish connection.
You don't hear much of daughter #2 on here because she lives thousands of miles away in Vancouver, and we haven't seen her for four years. I thought that since she once visited Scotland for a number of weeks that she might be interested in my genealogical findings.
Rather than rewriting, I will append, with some revisions, part of the email that I wrote to her.
My great grandmother Elizabeth Drew* (1851-1929) certainly had a Scots-like name. She married Israel Robinson of Irish ancestry, but there had to be Scots lurking back there. Mostly, however, I thought we were English and Irish. And mostly, I suppose, we are.*In passing, I note that I have read that the name, Drew, comes from Druid. Take it for what it is worth.
But when I clicked on her father, who was Shadrach Drew, I just kept going back and back with multiple lines extending into the early 1500s and even the late 1400s. I guess the records are so complete because there was a lot of nobility back there -- barons, lairds, ladies, judges and so on. I even spotted a Governor General.
Shadrach, your great great great great grandfather, was born in Ontario, near Cornwall in 1825 as was his father Paul Drew (1803-1860). Paul's immediate ancestors were also born in Ontario, but several generations back on his mother's side, Donald Ross was born in Glencalvie, Scotland in 1774. He married Christina Ann Munro who was a daughter of Lt Hugh Munro. It seems that Hugh Munro and his father, John Munro, were United Empire Loyalists who first settled in New York State before then moving to Ontario during or after the American Revolution.
John Munro was a colonel and also a judge. According to the records, he was born at/in Foulis Castle in 1728. As I followed the lines, I keep getting dragged back with each generation doubling the number of ancestors until I began to get lost.
There were so many lines and people that I think I would need a 10ft x10ft monitor to display everyone. As it is, when I go back far enough, I can only see one line at a time amongst many. Since they are all just names to me, my mind begins to overload.
Here is John Munro's pedigree. You can enlarge it to fullscreen, and you can see all of their birth and death dates. The records go all of the way back to 1480. I never expected this.
Note: Your mother also recently recovered her pedigree on the Morton side. She was sent the document back in 2002 but we lost track of it. It was in my room on the floor by the file cabinet, under approximately 4 dozen used mailers. When we decided that we didn't need all those mailers, we, as in she, found the Morton genealogy document at the bottom of the pile.
Here is John Munro's pedigree. You can enlarge it to fullscreen, and you can see all of their birth and death dates. The records go all of the way back to 1480. I never expected this.
The next screen capture is from a closely related line, the MacPhersons, which goes back to 1500.
Maybe I will also send some of that information at some point.
What I will add to this post, which I did not include in my email to Allyon, are a few photos of some the most recent ancestors that I mentioned above.
Elizabeth Drew (Robinson) and Israel Robinson, my great grandparents, outside their farmhouse in Eastern Ontario, near Cornwall.
My Great Great Grandmother Helen Drew (nee Hall, 1821-1908). My mother knew her as Granny Drew, even though Helen was her great grandmother.
I know little of Helen's pedigree. Her father was William Hall (b 1784). Her mother was Mary (b 1786), but I don't know her maiden surname. I guess they were common folk who left little record. But it is Helen's husband, Shadrach, where the Scottish line(s) goes back into the mists of time, or at least into the 1400s in some cases.
I have posted of these near ancestors in this post previously, so I will append those links so that I have them all in one place.
Very interesting. Love how you found the Morton document at the bottom of the stack. Lol.
ReplyDeleteOh I have Scottish roots too, so we might just be cousins from back in the old days! Loved the 2 photos of the Drews. Thanks for sharing the old ones of your family. I spend many hours on Ancestry looking at various lines, going back to great times 10 grandparents. Ancestry tells me their relationships to me. Then I've been blogging about many of them, on another of my blogs.
ReplyDeleteI've gone back to Ancestry, despite being adopted, as I hadn't done much research on my adoptive dad. Jilks is an unusual name!
ReplyDeleteSadly, it just keep on bringing up my mom's lineage. My cousins did some work on this. It sure is a rabbit hole, though!
Great research! You are fortunate to have this info to pass on through the family.
ReplyDeleteI urge caution on accepting links at face value without documentation. I noticed on one of your screen shots a Hugh Munro age 48 and Elizabeth Fraser age 64 gave birth to a Christina Ross. Not only does the surname of Ross not make sense but giving birth at age 64 is also not likely so there is likely something wrong there.
ReplyDeleteOn other links in the trees, there are several cases of births happening to mothers 15 and 16 years old. Though possible, I have not found these to be real common.
In my experience, 95% of trees beyond the early 1800's are riddled full of such errors.
Thanks for you input. I am a overview sort of guy and miss details. This is true even in my photography.
ReplyDeleteI have often or at least sometimes noticed discrepancies in marriage dates in particular. On some lists, there are 4 separate dates for the marriage.
I am somewhat more confident about the actual people, but I realize that the farther back we go, the greater the room for error.
It's best efforts in my case, and I don't suppose it matters much in the long run.
Right now, another line is going quite a long way back in Cornwall, England, which is interesting because this part of the family settled near Cornwall, Ontario.
My daughter is one in charge of looking back over family connections. We have a very nice show here on our public television called "Finding your Roots" that takes celebrities and traces their ancestry WAY back. Then the show ends with them related distantly to someone famous today.
ReplyDeleteGenealogy can be a bit of a rabbit hole that sucks you under to wander endlessly. I love it.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that you find information about your ancestors. I know who they might be but nothing about them.
ReplyDeleteBarnum, Gunthorp, and Robson here.
ReplyDeleteI dabbled in genealogy a lot in 2013-2014 and took the lines as far back as reasonably accurate. I am heavily Scots on my dad's side.
ReplyDeleteShadrach is an unusual name.
ReplyDeleteYour daughters & grandkids are lucky you are doing the work to find your roots.
ReplyDeleteSearching the family tree can be fun, enlightening & often frustrating once you get past grandparents. In trying to trace family I have discovered that I am from a family of people who never seem to want to go by any registered name & I don't mean just changing the spelling of a name.
Wow! You know a lot about your ancestors. I wish I knew more but I'm only second/third generation Swede in the US and finding relations in Sweden was really difficult. My sister was the one who was trying to do the family tree. Very interesting. Love the old photos! :)
ReplyDeleteThose photos are priceless. I know so little about my own family history and lineage, but I struggle to find any enthusiasm about learning more.
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