What a rigamarole! If I'd had any hair left . . . well, you know . . .
I have two credit cards and two banks. Oddly enough the two banks belong to the same company and even exist in the same building in out town, but they are treated separately, as if they were two different banks. I could go into the history that got them and me to this point, but that isn't relevant to the remainder of this post.
It was a few months ago that I could no longer log into credit card A which is my main credit card. It is the one without an attached bank account although it used to be attached to account B, below. Back then, sometime last autumn, I phoned the Help Desk for assistance in logging in, and they said the solution was to delete my computer cache. I did. It worked, and I could log in — for awhile.
Even though it worked — for awhile — it was a pain to have to find and type all of my passwords to all of all of my online sites again. Then, believe it or not, this same A credit card locked me out again. I knew what to do — delete my cache, type in my passwords — one more time! Once again, it worked for awhile — a very very short while.
I wasn't going to go through that business again if I could help it. So, I found the relevant app for my iPad. Nope. My old tablet would not support this app. However, I was able to add it to my phone, and it has worked ever since then.
I don't like or want to do banking in the small phone screen, and on a device that I carry around in public, but that is what I have had to do for months. Poor me. (Fortunately, I can now get the relevant apps on my new tablet.)
But wait there's more!
This week I could not log into into bank account B. There is no longer a credit card attached to B, but it is my main bank account. I would enter my bank number and password, and absolutely nothing would happen: no rejection, no anything, just me staring at nothingness spinning before me. The first few times, I thought the site must be down, but after multiple failures, and on the third day of this nothingness, I decided to make a new password. It worked but not completely. (Although I hadn't been able to log in, strangely enough, I could reset my password because I've have that 16-digit code memorized for decades, and they had my email and phone number for verification.)
Details are about to follow in this post that is already boring me, not to mention you, but there is more: so much more.
Anyway, I eventually got B partially (key word) sorted and went onto bank C, where there is both a credit card and a bank account.
Wasn't it just the same %$&^ thing all over again‽ No message, just spinning nothingness. As with account B, I eventually prevailed — sort of. (I am trying to shorten the narrative here.)
Now we get to the extra silly part. For years, I have logged into C with the bank card number — years, I tell you. Once in, I could see both the credit card info and the bank account info. Life was easy. I knew those 16 digits backwards and forwards and inside out.
However, life was too easy for me, and we couldn't have that. So, naturally, they changed the bank card numbers. It took some time, but I had just about mastered those new 16 digits, when they threw me this new curve ball, perhaps more of a knuckle ball. Once I delved into it and revamped my password, I discovered that I now, I must log in, not with my newly-remembered bank card but with the sixteen associated credit card digits. They don't like the bank card numbers any more. Sigh.
Just a note in passing. I don't mind having normal passwords stored in computer cache memory, like Blogger's password, for example, but I do not want my financial numbers to be stored anywhere. For security reasons, I want to enter them manually every single darn time, so now my poor, ancient brain must learn 16 new numbers for the second time in several months.
But wait there's even more!
With my virus checker, I have an addon called Safe Play, in which I have long been able to log into financial sites in a very secure way where, supposedly, prying spyware would find it very difficult to follow. Nope! Can't use that app any darn more. I must now log in on my less secure regular web browser, or on my phone or tablet since I have had to download the app for C too.
I can't tell you how much backing and forthing and ining and outing I went through to get this all sorted. Well I could, but even writing this is driving me nuts, just as reading it (have you made it this far?) must just about causing your head to slump down onto your computer desk. I hope you didn't bang your head too hard or destroy your computer or whatever device that you are using.
Computers do not always make life easier, my friends, or at least they may make it very difficult in the short term in order to, perhaps, make it easier in the long term. Perhaps.
What a performance. I agree about not storing online any finance related passwords. I type them in every time. My son has them written out and safely stored at his home in case he has to access them. Paper don't crash.
ReplyDeleteI don't mind some pws being slightly less secure, although I try anyway, but the financial ones re crucial.
DeleteJG is having similar issues with an institution where he has two accounts, etc. I bet it is the same one. Are you a Tired Canadian, by any chance?
ReplyDeleteI have had to replace my main credit card three times since September because of unauthorized claims. Three new passwords, and all of the mess of telling the places where you use them on line. I did figure out where the steal was coming from, I think.
I keep passwords in a book and the book on my library shelves with several hundred other ones - good luck finding that! I have to do that because I can't remember them. Sad and soggy brain. I remember lyrics to songs I have not heard for seven decades, but not the password I created seven days ago.
But at least you are not trekking to the bank through all of this white wet stuff I can see out the window. Computers do help with that.
I have my passwords on the computer but on a program that requires another password (or key).
DeleteI can so relate. I have no patience for that B...S.. I was just on (well, trying to get on) a gov't site. Ready to pitch the computer out into the snow. One can feel the blood pressure rising!!! I don't know who technology is making things easy for, certainly not the average person.
ReplyDeleteAnd then they ask you a question, and you know the answer but a can't remember who exactly you framed the answer 3 years ago, whether you used a nickname or whatever. Or you make a typo or two and lose a turn a get locked out.
DeleteThat's awful! Yes, computers are terrific--until they aren't. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteI feel your pain. My credit card company for some reason after 20 years of sending my monthly statement to my box # at the local post office started sending it to my land location (I live on a farm and no mail is delivered out here). Trying to get them straightened out was a real pain in the ass. So much so that I no longer use that credit card at all.
ReplyDeleteOnce you get past the local people, I think it's like getting sucked into a vortex.
DeleteWell, that was frustrating.
ReplyDeleteGolly, you are sure having a day(week) of it with new technology and those banking issues! My main problem is having a different email account for my Apple devices, from my PC and main use for regular emails. And I keep getting these messages that my iCloud is about to be deleted unless I pay something...which is absurd. I pay for extra gigs of memory on a monthly plan which is still working. I went through a long list of contacts at Apple to hopefully straighten this out. But it continues! A son said don't even open those messages. But they do have the Apple logo and all...and I do open them every once in a while...but they say today your iCloud will be deleted with all your information, and then 3 days later they say the same thing.
ReplyDeleteWe're all enduring frustrations, it seems.
DeleteGosh I dread this sort of thing! It really is a pain. I hope you have good smooth sailing from here on out. Aloha, AC
ReplyDeleteI hate this sort of frustration, what a time waster and heart rate inducer!
ReplyDeleteUffdah! To log into my second bank, I have to use a bunch of digits and a fingerprint. That works pretty well.
ReplyDeleteMy main account is where all my stuff is kept. One credit card only. When I log in after clearing everything, they send me a code via text and I can proceed.
That sure sounds like a crazy rigmarole for you to go through.
It is also nice that I can walk into our bank and sit down and check everything out with someone, they are always so happy to do so.
They get you to do a fingerprint on your phone?
DeleteSure, it was set up when I opened the account. It is pretty secure that way unless someone chops off a finger. My son is on the account also, so if something happened to me, he has access.
DeleteAlmost sounds like you've been hacked. I have one of those little paper booklets with alpha pages to keep all of my passwords in. My brain can't remember much beyond my birthday and social security number. Hope our crappy leader's friend didn't figure out how to peck into our Canadian friends' accounts. I just had an attempted charge that was stopped by my bank's fraud line. Never bought any crypto.com coin, never bought any bitcoin stuff. It was only $13, but attempted and stopped twice. Have a new debit card arriving. Sigh. Linda in Kansas
ReplyDeleteOh my! I never thought of him getting into my stuff.
DeleteWhat a pain! I've written about all the mess we had with stolen bank cards. I feel for you.
ReplyDeleteHow did you ever keep all this straight enough to tell us the story!? I think banks are one of the most frustrating things to deal with online, but luckily I have a good acquaintance at the bank who will help me. (She knows me since I got hacked two years ago).
ReplyDeleteI've added some extras digits to mine although I hadn't had trouble.
DeleteThat really sounds like a nightmare. No matter what you do, Bank always blamed on the consumer.
ReplyDeleteI live in fear of bank mess ups. As someone above said, how did you even keep it straight to tell the story? Serious nightmare.
ReplyDeleteI think it was etched deeply. lol
DeleteGood grief. Nightmare! We had issues with my husband’s credit card, Amazon and the bank. Ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteI have two VISAs, one of which is attached to my bank account. The other is my main card though for some reason. If this happened to me, I would be beside myself with anger and weeping/swearing/wanting to throw things. I admire your perseverance, John!
ReplyDeleteI can be persevering for some things but not for others. Usually, I can persist with the computer, but don't set a mechanical problem in front of me.
DeleteWowee, what a pain in the butt! I hope it stays settled for you. I have my banking apps on my iPad, but not on my phone. I don't like the idea of losing my phone and someone somehow hacking in there and accessing my accounts. I do have an apple card on my phone, so if I'm out and about on foot without my wallet, I can buy something if I need to. But it's not attached to any bank accounts.
ReplyDeleteWe try to stay as secure as possible.
DeleteI am afraid to use a regular credit card on line. I use a credit card that has a very low limit so that even if it is compromised, it is not attached to any bank account. The purposely low credit limit insures that they are not going to get much. Tim does on line banking though. We never use a portable device to access it. Are we safe? Who knows? By now, Elon may have all our information.
ReplyDeleteI do that too, but I use the big card for some places that we frequent a lot.
DeleteI can’t believe your story at all. Terrible! However, if it’s difficult for you, it would also be difficult for hackers! Hope things improve for you.
ReplyDeleteI gave up a long time ago and started using a password manager. It remembers all my passwords and enters them automatically into any website I visit after I type in the single master password that I use to access it. All the passwords are encrypted so should my computer be stolen, they would be useless to thieves unless they managed to beat the master password out of me. It solves the headache of having to remember new passwords and I have the settings set to always use the most secure password possible which on many sites these days is a random string of letters, numbers, characters and special symbols up to 24 characters long. Short of a computer, I'm not sure how anyone would accidentally crack one of them.
ReplyDeleteThat is doubtless the proper way to do it. So far I am leery to give up control.
DeleteAck. I feel your pain. I was telling Larry this evening how much of my life is given to this crap. He has NO idea, since he leaves it all to me to sort out. I want all those hours of my life back!
ReplyDeleteTechnological "convenience" is periodically a full-time job, isn't it? Sigh.
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