tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post112042267411704585..comments2024-03-28T21:22:17.322-04:00Comments on The AC is On: Happy FourthAnvilcloudhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07974744042579564912noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1121201158533182402005-07-12T16:45:00.000-04:002005-07-12T16:45:00.000-04:00What Keith says is correct though I can't agree wi...What Keith says is correct though I can't agree with his implication that the USA is qualitatively different in this regard. All nations have limited the rights of some, murdered others, and messed around in the affairs of other sovereign nations. It's what countries do. As individuals we can protest the atrocities but remember also how much we've profited from those nasty things done for our collective benefit. It's better to feel guilty (or smug) than to be marginalized or even dead.utenzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988445461413550750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120693094448183682005-07-06T19:38:00.000-04:002005-07-06T19:38:00.000-04:00That's an interesting take on the Fourth of July, ...That's an interesting take on the Fourth of July, Lora. For me, the Fourth is when all of my frustrations often come to a head as the patriotism around me seems to grow beyond all realistic proportion. That said, I have refrained from politics on my own blog to a very large extent and can understand your point of view regarding one day of the year being set aside for appreciation.Keith "Nurse Keith" Carlson, RN, BSN, NC-BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03581947410641941224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120668153694231552005-07-06T12:42:00.000-04:002005-07-06T12:42:00.000-04:00Thanks for posting this. I vaguely remember it, b...Thanks for posting this. I vaguely remember it, but didn't know the source.Normahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11502895616873273470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120660738625393212005-07-06T10:38:00.000-04:002005-07-06T10:38:00.000-04:00Every nation has skeletons in their closet. All of...Every nation has skeletons in their closet. All of them do things that are less than ideal. You can't do what's going to please all the people, all of the time and for all time. <BR/><BR/>However, honest critiquing and evaluating our actions and motives are the only way a nation can grow. Paying attention and questioning our assumptions in one of the most patriotic things you can do.<BR/><BR/>However, I spend 364 days of the year grumbling about the goverment, although I avoid it on my blog. For that one remaining day, it's really nice to step back and appreciate what is good.Lorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322778291206842093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120603463903659492005-07-05T18:44:00.000-04:002005-07-05T18:44:00.000-04:00What a sane and measured commentary! Thank you so ...What a sane and measured commentary! Thank you so much for chiming in so intelligently! I'm glad that a fellow American can see where I'm coming from. <BR/><BR/>From my viewpoint, dissent can be patriotic--one can loathe what one's government does allegedly in one's name, and still believe that living in that country is worth the price. <BR/><BR/>I find that being an American in this era takes an emotional toll as our government continues to make such poor choices,and the pain I feel based upon my country's many misguided actions is real. <BR/><BR/>I agree that we as a people are very generous--as you point out, it is the bottom 90% who give the most. I also agree that in terms of overall wealth, we give relatively little. That said, there are thousands who contribute time, energy and devotion to animals, children, the mentally ill, the mentally retarded, people with AIDS, the environment, the advancement of science, the list goes on. Still, our country's standing and reputation in the world has taken a dive, and for good reason. We have squandered the good will which was engendered back in September of 2001, and regaining the trust of many around the world will be an uphill struggle. <BR/><BR/>As a progressive and liberal thinker and activist, I am willing to dig my heels in and state my truths, even if some who are not comfortable with my dissent will simply demand that I shove off to other shores.Keith "Nurse Keith" Carlson, RN, BSN, NC-BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03581947410641941224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120598503334848992005-07-05T17:21:00.000-04:002005-07-05T17:21:00.000-04:00Sometimes some of us in the south romanticize life...Sometimes some of us in the south romanticize life in Canada (e.g. me). And I suppose, as the Gordon Sinclair post shows, some in the north romanticize life in the U.S of A.<BR/><BR/>As Keith pointed out, America's largesse comes from an even larger stockpile of wealth. So while we may give handsomely, we don't necessarilly give gererously. As the Bible story tells us, there is little virtue in giving that which we can afford to give. The blessed act is in giving that which you can little afford to give. Still, as indivuduals I think we are a fairly giving lot... at least those of us in the bottom 90% of the economic heap. :)<BR/><BR/>I'm proud of America's ideals, if not the deeds of her leaders. But I'd like to think I have a mature patriotism, one that allows me to love my country and still challenge her to do better; not an emotionally handicapped patriotism that cannot bear honest self-examination. I have no desire to be a patriotic fool, easilly lead be unquestioning happy-talk. In fact there are few things more un-Amercian to me than the my-country-right-or-wrong, love-it-or-leave-it blowhard.<BR/><BR/>Oh, yeah.... Thanks for the good wishes! :)-epmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10290108507107672811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120586644570254212005-07-05T14:04:00.000-04:002005-07-05T14:04:00.000-04:00Thank you! What nice comments.I tend to get my Am...Thank you! What nice comments.<BR/><BR/>I tend to get my American history from biographies and autobigraphies, not text books. I like Studs Terkel.<BR/><BR/>No matter what country we hail from, there will always be room for improvement. <BR/><BR/>I'm thankful that Canada is the country to the north of me (and the east!), not Iran.Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17065893613028995685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120578016136081292005-07-05T11:40:00.000-04:002005-07-05T11:40:00.000-04:00As far as the comments by "Anonymous", I wish this...As far as the comments by "Anonymous", I wish this person would not hide behind that moniker. Although I am critical of my country's political origins and actions, there are indeed many things I like about life here and if "Anonymous" was to read my blog, he or she would see that I spend most of my life helping others and doing my part. As a nurse, I work with the poor and disabled, volunteer for the local Medical Reserve Corps in order to respond to terrorism, disasters, and other emergencies, and contribute in numerous ways to my community. I have been politically active all of my adult life, vote in every election, and take time to talk with people who have different views than mine. I write letters to the editor, go to public meetings, attend local government events, and am in very frequent contact with my congress members and representatives. I also have travelled to more than a dozen countries around the world and know that we have many priviledges here in the US that I do not take for granted and which I readily acknowledge in my writing. <BR/><BR/>That said, to simply offer to throw me a going away party is a very unconstructive reaction. I prefer dialogue, conversation, and the sharing of ideas. If "Anonymous" would like to take part in such discourse, he or she is welcome to visit my blog or email me from there. I have no plans to change my citizenship, although I may pursue dual citizenship with the country of my choice in the future. I process and ameliorate my shame of being an American by being an involved and informed member of this society.Keith "Nurse Keith" Carlson, RN, BSN, NC-BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03581947410641941224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120532944581208382005-07-04T23:09:00.000-04:002005-07-04T23:09:00.000-04:00Thank you so much for the kind and caring words yo...Thank you so much for the kind and caring words you wrote! I am a PROUD American and am appalled at what Keith Carlson wrote. Yes, the government of this country has made mistakes, as have the governments of other countries. Unfortunately, those can't be changed, but that doesn't mean that this is a bad country. The people, as a whole, are caring, considerate, and generous, and yes, this country is one of the first to respond to any other country in need. Just recently, the tsunami victims were made aware of the generosity of our people. If Keith is so ashamed to be an American, maybe he should consider changing his citizenship to another country that he feels would be a more perfect fit for him. It doesn't sound as if he has been doing anything to try to make this a better country, just criticizing and complaining about how awful we are. I hope he will let us all know when he finds a country without faults or past mistakes, and if is able to find it, hopefully, he will move there! I'll be happy to throw him a going-away party!! Thank you again for the nice thoughts, as they are totally correct!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120529249765716342005-07-04T22:07:00.000-04:002005-07-04T22:07:00.000-04:00Hi KeithI feel badly for you. I know that many Ame...Hi Keith<BR/><BR/>I feel badly for you. I know that many Americans struggle with many things about their country. I have my things to say at times too, but I was trying to be very positive today.<BR/><BR/>I have often thought that there is a great American dichotomy. What you say is true, and what was said in this 'speech' is also true. For whatever reason there seems to be a great disconnect between what Americans are like as a people and what they are like as a political entity. I find it difficult to tell you how much I disapprove of the 'morality' of the current regime, but I suppose that even they may be well-intended in their own way. They probably do think they are battling for right and righteousness.<BR/><BR/>Canada's history wrt the treatment of native peoples and minorities is also quite shameful. People of the past had a different mindset and were products of their upbringing too. It's hard for us to understand from where we stand and gaze, but the past deeds were repeated in other places by other people. It will never be right, but it was.<BR/><BR/>I think many of the bad political choices of more recent history have also been made out of fear of communism and now of terrorism. Human rights and common compassion have, wrongly, taken a back seat. While some of this is intolerable, some of it is also understandable because it is hard to serve two masters, hard to focus on two things at once, hard to have more than one priority.<BR/><BR/>I really think that Americans need to get out more, go abroad more, or even come and visit us in Canada. It's amazing that many people who live close to the border have no concept about what it is like here. Anyway, I think that more exposure to the world would help to broaden horizons.<BR/><BR/>I am trying, and probably failing, to make you feel better. To me, there's always the good and the bad, the yin and the yang, and it's seldom just one or the other. I think there's a heap of goodness down there.<BR/><BR/>Take care, and remember that you are also an American and represent what I think is wonderful about your nation, as do all sorts of people who visit this blog and whose blogs I read. I have nothing but respect.<BR/><BR/>ACAnvilcloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07974744042579564912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120502848894627252005-07-04T14:47:00.000-04:002005-07-04T14:47:00.000-04:00Wow, Anvilcloud. After writing a fairly anti-Ameri...Wow, Anvilcloud. After writing a fairly anti-American note on my own blog today, I surf over here to your appreciation of us folks. Food for thought. <BR/><BR/>I appreciate your enthusiasm and support for us Americans, but also remind you that there is much more to the story than this. <BR/><BR/>Our country is founded on the exploitation and slaughter of millions of Native Americans. We have exploited migrant labor since our inception, migrants who built our roads, bridges, skyscrapers and railroads. Now those individuals grow our food, clean our houses and do all of the menial labor that we are too good for. <BR/><BR/>Our country has instigated coups and civil wars, divided peoples of many countries against one another, undermined true democracies, and stuck its nose in many unwanted places, Iraq included. We created the seedbeds for mass slaughter and unrest in many Central American counries, installed CIA-backed dictators, and silently colluded with drug lords in Columbia and Afghanistan. We were best friends with Saddam Hussein for many years, selling him the chemical weapons which he used on his own people with our prior knowledge. We installed the Shah of Iran in order to counterbalance fundamentalism in that country, a move which has had no positive outcome of any kind, especially taking into consideration the recent elections there. <BR/><BR/>As a people, I feel that my country is haughty, self-centered, egocentric, nationalistic, and currently bordering on fascist in its ideology and outlook. Based upon our Gross Domestic Product, we actually give pitifully small amounts towards debtor nations and those suffering from famine, war, and natural disasters. <BR/><BR/>I highly recommend that you read "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn for a true accounting of our origins and deeds since the 18th century. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this southern neighbor of yours is not what it seems, and my shame at being American is enormous at this time. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for your sentiments and praise, but I also encourage you to look deeper and see the real face of my devolving nation. <BR/><BR/>All the best, today and every day to my Canadian friend.Keith "Nurse Keith" Carlson, RN, BSN, NC-BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03581947410641941224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120500918581956972005-07-04T14:15:00.000-04:002005-07-04T14:15:00.000-04:00Thank You, Anvilcloud!Reading that brought tears t...Thank You, Anvilcloud!<BR/><BR/>Reading that brought tears to my eyes. As an American I often feel ashamed of our nation's tendancy to get involved where we don't belong, like the Iraq, but it's very nice to have the flip side of this pointed. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for posting it.Lorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322778291206842093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120491801168719462005-07-04T11:43:00.000-04:002005-07-04T11:43:00.000-04:00I've heard that before somewhere. I like it. Than...I've heard that before somewhere. I like it. Thanks for posting it. Makes me feel kinda good to be an American. Kinda sad that it's the truth, but...Christihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369978641581682398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998770.post-1120485368016906662005-07-04T09:56:00.000-04:002005-07-04T09:56:00.000-04:00Thanks, AC.Thanks, AC.swamp4mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03500364141244115390noreply@blogger.com